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Old Westminsters
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Charles Watkin Williams-Wynn to Peter Elmsley

A friend has claimed that Cambridge has produced more great men than Oxford (with the exception of statesmen). Asks for PE's thoughts on lists of men from both universities - should he continue the contest, or sound a retreat and declare that the great men were a result of circumstances independent of the particular systems of education?

Charles Watkin Williams-Wynn to Peter Elmsley

PE has apparently been disappointed in an amatory suit - CW advises him to persist. Asks PE's opinion of a Latin inscription drafted by Phillimore to be engraved on a 'magnificent silver vase voted to his brother (Watkin) by the county of Denbigh' - would prefer the first five lines only, but fears that the committee will opt for the (very lengthy) whole. About to go on a fortnight's yeomanry campaign in Welshpool.

Charles Watkin Williams-Wynn to Peter Elmsley

On canvassing on PE's behalf in an election (v.440f). A (modern) pencilled note on the back claims this election concerned the preachership of Gray's Inn - this is incorrect (the Gray's Inn preachership changed in 1811 and 1815), but in 1812 William Van Mildert was elected to the preachership of Lincoln's Inn.

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