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Charles Watkin Williams-Wynn to Peter Elmsley

A friend has claimed that Cambridge has produced more great men than Oxford (with the exception of statesmen). Asks for PE's thoughts on lists of men from both universities - should he continue the contest, or sound a retreat and declare that the great men were a result of circumstances independent of the particular systems of education?

Charles Watkin Williams-Wynn to Peter Elmsley

On canvassing on PE's behalf in an election (v.440f). A (modern) pencilled note on the back claims this election concerned the preachership of Gray's Inn - this is incorrect (the Gray's Inn preachership changed in 1811 and 1815), but in 1812 William Van Mildert was elected to the preachership of Lincoln's Inn.

Peter Elmsley to his sister-in-law [Mary Hallowell?]

Oxford. Continuation of account of travels. From Carlisle to Penrith, and then on foot with a guide to Kendal and the Lakes. Ullswater and Patterdale - the king of Patterdale a great miser (who in fact died 5 days after the writing of this letter). The next to the top of Helvellyn, and on to Keswick. 2 days at Keswick, and 2 more at Windermere. Lovely country (as also in Scotland), but PE has realized that works of art give him more pleasure than those of nature. The docks of Liverpool delight him more than any landscape. 2 days in Liverpool with friends of Veysie (population of 70,000, doubled over last 30 years). Chester and on - but no need to describe this, since sister-in-law has seen it. A week in Worcester with Philpott (excursions to Hereford and Gloucester). Tewkesbury and Cheltenham (where a day with the Beverleys). Probably the best summer of his life - now for 10 months of noise, smoke, filth and confinement.

Peter Elmsley to his sister-in-law [Mary Hallowell?]

Oxford. Tour of Scotland - Glasgow to Carlisle via Hamilton (awkward, inconvenient house, shabbily furnished, but some good pictures, chiefly portraits, and Rubens' Daniel in the Lions' Den). Remarks on Scotland - poor climate, wonderful scenery. The gentry, despite professing to love it, do not encourage agriculture or industry and do not live on their estates, preferring London or Edinburgh, so the country is poor (but Glasgow an exception, and also the Earls of Breadalbane). The lower classes are more intelligent than the English, but no more honest - very hospitable, however.

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